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> Okay,
with all this talk on the list coinciding with me having the >urge to do evocation for the first time in a year, I was wondering: > Does anybody here practice evocation to physical appearance? I've >done a lot of evocation in the form of "servitor creation", but that's >almost never to physical manifestation and I've been having the urge to >do something mind-blowing. Which leads to my second question: > Anyone do any Goetic evocation? And what about evoking Enochian >entities? Any opinions, advice, or cautionary tales are welcome. I haven't evoked to physical appearance because I see no need in doing so. It drains your energy and takes lots of time and dedication, and for what? To me, there's no need to see an entity if all I want it to do is provide itself for a certain task. Crowley, in his excellent essay, "8 lectures on Yoga", talked about how the Indians knew all sorts of things about the nerves in the body, and how they could stimulate a certain nerve to gain the ability to walk on water. Then he jokingly said that the Indians were always looking for the impractical ways to do things, so instead of just getting a boat or building a bridge, they go out of their way to walk on water. So in other words, often the most complex ways of going about doing things aren't always the best ways. Wouldn't be easier to just get an entity to do a job and leave it alone, without evoking it into a physical shell just so you could see it? But there are probably uses for evoking entities into visual appearance. Anyone know any? IPpy -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason Lambdin wrote: > > Okay, with all this talk on the list coinciding with me having the >urge to do evocation for the first time in a year, I was wondering: > Does anybody here practice evocation to physical appearance? I've I've always found this phrase to be misleading. What I think most people mean when they say this is evocation to "visible form". Physical means physical body - that you can touch; and I'd bet that this doesn't actually happen too often (although I have heard of people doing it by using something like shit as a body for the entity to manifest in. Never done it myself though). But I do evoke to visible form very often. By this I mean that I can see the entity in the Temple with me quite clearly. They appear to me in translucent form, much like the conventional idea of a ghost. I usually interact with them telepathically (ie, I can hear them in my mind), though occasionally I have heard a voice that seemed to be "real" in the sense of heard with the ears. >done a lot of evocation in the form of "servitor creation", but that's >almost never to physical manifestation and I've been having the urge to >do something mind-blowing. Which leads to my second question: > Anyone do any Goetic evocation? And what about evoking Enochian >entities? Any opinions, advice, or cautionary tales are welcome. Yeah, I do Goetic evocation all the time. Fucking love it. It still manages to scare the living shit out of me on occasion. If you are going to do serious work with Goetic demons, I'd suggest that you make sure you're physically healthy and fit, and allow yourself time to recuperate in between work. It can take a lot out of you. I've been made ill by the mishandling of Goetic demons, injured myself physically while in a state of possesion (another evocation that fucked up and became invocation), and been left in a state of confusion disorientation for several days after workings. Evocation is one of my favourite techniques, and actually one that I find very easy to get results with. Urlunggar The TBH http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/5668/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enjoying this thread- ---Jason Lambdin wrote: > Okay, with all this talk on the list coinciding with me having the > urge to do evocation for the first time in a year, I was wondering: > Does anybody here practice evocation to physical appearance? Yes, occasionally. And I do see much merit in sending a chaobolt directly into that psychic sensor by doing so. That can be a liberating experience for certain. In fact I find this is often my reason for pushing for that extra physical/visual manifestation. I think that when a magician evokes to visual manifestation, often this is simply a neurologically-induced hallucination. Through our gnosis (or chemognosis), we fuel the demon/spirit/entity, allowing it to take shape in numerous ways. This can include visual appearance, but doesnt have to, etc.. I would be interested to know if any Zees on the list have evoked to group mass-hallucination. In other words, have any of you evoked an entity to visual/physical manifestation before a group of fellow magicians/onlookers/whatever? And in that operation, did the viewers all have the same hallucination/vision? > done a lot of evocation in the form of "servitor creation", but that's > almost never to physical manifestation and I've been having the urge to > do something mind-blowing. Which leads to my second question: > Anyone do any Goetic evocation? And what about evoking Enochian > entities? Any opinions, advice, or cautionary tales are welcome. Goetic evocation rocks. No warnings or precautions for you, just go do it. They are a fun bunch, much less stuffy than Enochian angelic entities. By my experience, they are also much more willing to get out there and do things for you, given the proper prodding. Ibn Octopod "If you gaze into the Abyss, then the Abyss also gazes into you" -Nietzsche -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IPpy writes: >I haven't evoked to physical appearance because I see no need in doing >so. It drains your energy and takes lots of time and dedication, and for >what? >But there are probably uses for evoking entities into visual appearance. >Anyone know any? mostly i agree with ippy, but yeah, there is something to be gained in the mind-blowing department from actually *seeing* them spooks. my advice would be to try and meet them half-way, by doing something which opens you up to their realm. the two most effective, IMNSHO, are sleep-dep/exhaustian and datura chemognosis - or both! both will put you into a 'half-dream' state which it will be very hard to break out of. Datura (aka thornapple, jimsonweed, etc) lets you sense spirits as if they were other people in the room w/ you (although you don't visually 'see' them, you can place them at specific locations). if you've never done datura, and don't know anyone who has who can guide you, you should just smoke the dried leaf (the greener and leathery-er the better). do not eat the plant until you have a good deal of experience with smoking it. also, you will think you are down from a jimson high an hour or more before you really are, so keep that in mind. -furie -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmm, a VERY interesting thread. Personally I do not tend to use outward entites, being firmly from thee Neuromantic school, but my paradigm is broadening. My friend is a 'professional medium', and she has a lot ov success, but I think it has a lot to do with personal affinity. I do not try to do much spirit work, because I am not a natural; and as all good textbook chaotes know, there is more than one way to skin a cat (I have spent much time thinking about how many, but as some ov you know I am not a cat person). What you might do with evocation, you can do other ways. More to thee point, it may be a good thing to try different entities. Iv you are going to specifically work with entities, try different systems. I had luck with thee spirits ov thee dead (Burroughs, as it happens), and with 'Faeries'. When contacting thee zee satellite system I had an intrusion by a Cthulhoid entity named Qa, but I told it to fuck off. But I little luck with 'animal guides' and thee like. I'm more ov thee opinion that if you should work with entities, they will come to you, but this a personal view, based on my faerie experiences. (BTW never try to meet thee Manchester fae, they're from thee Moss Side school, altho they look dead cool- chaostars and spikes and stuff, they're pretty viscious). Get eclectic, and try these things, cos you may be surprised who you'll get on with... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> In a message dated 6/30/98 8:59:00 PM, john wrote: >> >> >I need a good evocation method, if anyone can help... >> > thanks ahead of time... >> >> What do you want to evoke? > >A generic entity... sort of an all-purpose one, maybe? Pat's First Law of Diminishing Returns: the more general the capabilities of a spirit, the less power the spirit will have in specific matters. Pick 'n' choose your spirits -- use Buer to cure your cold, Baal to make you invisible. Don't mix 'n' match, and don't put all your eggs into one basket, either. >> To what degree do you want the entity to manifest physically, >> i.e. what senses do you want to use to perceive the entity? > >as much as you can allow <with mainly eyes and sense, ie mind> Why? So you can check their drivers license? :) No, you don't hardly ever need manifestation to *any* sense, psychic or otherwise. Sometimes it's unavoidable -- at least, I usually see swirling lights -- but all you really need is to make sure that they're *there*, and that you can do with assurance if you do the evocation correctly. Then, all you have to do is offer your bargain (works better, I've found, then giving orders -- which reminds me, I owe a spirit a thank you note). >> Why do you want to evoke it? > > i mainly just need an evocation so i don't have > to do last minute runs to get help when i decide > to evoke something... Oh, so you just want an all purpose evocation? That's simple enough, but it'd be easier with some idea of your capabilities. Here's what *I* usually do: I draw the sigil of the spirit I'm evoking in the triangle. I stand in the circle, peering at the sigil. Then I usually launch into a refrain introducing myself -- don't be modest, here, I usually use something like, "I am Fvlmen, and the whole world trembles at the movement of my head. I am Fvlmen, and spirits cower at my name. I am Fvlmen, and I am the Master of the Forty-Two Sigla. I am Fvlmen, and I am the Weaver of Threads. I am Fvlmen, and I am the Chooser of Destinies. . . " and so on. BTW, don't co-opt my titles. They're more or less meaningless, but they're *mine*. Puff yourself up to the point that even *you* believe it, and then start chanting the spirit's name. Reach into the astral plane with your Will and drag the spirit to you. Then, when you feel the spirit's present, or you're sick of chanting, or you see it in the triangle, then give it your orders or offer your bargain and banish. Don't forget to banish. Also, keep your side of the bargain. That's it. Simple as pie. But remember this important caveat: just as in every dealing between two entities, there's a nice way to do things, and not so nice way. I personally don't embrace the bad-ass attitude many chaos magicians seem to like -- I tip waiters (especially if they're cute!), don't dress in black, and don't go out of my way to scare small children. So I recommend treating spirits with some respect -- forswear the ridiculous "And I'll destroy you forever!" drivel that many magicians like to use in evocation. Not necessary, and not polite. Most spirits will help you for the fun of it. Some might ask for payment -- be prepared, if they do, for something you wouldn't expect -- they live in a world of symbols. But threaten them, and they'll turn on you the first chance they get. Hell hath no fury like a Goetic demon scorned! --Pat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Why? So you can check their drivers license? :) >> No, you don't hardly ever need manifestation to >> *any* sense, psychic or otherwise. Sometimes > > I think it'd be cool, but that's just. Also, by far > the best way for a war-magic demon to protect you > would just be to show up when you're threatened. > Most people will run away from someone protected by > spirits :-). Very true, but usually spirits can only appear to those with sme psychic sense anyway. It is possible for spirits to take on a physical form, but I get the impression it's painful and they only do it when necessary. >>I draw the sigil of the spirit I'm evoking >> in the triangle. I stand in the circle, peering >> at the sigil. Then I usually launch into a >> refrain introducing myself -- don't be modest, >> here, I usually use something > > I like the titles. I'm wondering, though, about the > ritual you describe, as I have no context really for > it. Where is the circle positioned in relation to > the triangle, and where do you get the sigil? I'm standing in the circle, which I usually chalk on the floor (or, on carpet, I use masking tape). The triangle is outside the circle, either chalked on the floor or taped out. Once I stamped the whole thing out in snow -- a delightful experience. The sigils I use, prefering the Goetia, come from that book. Most grimoires will give you sigla for the spirits you evoke. If they don't, you can make a sigil in several ways, including the Golden Dawn's "Rose-Cross" method, or even the way we chaos mages usually make Sigla -- namely, by combining letters in a monogram. >-Robin, who still has trouble with evocation vs. invocation. Evocation -- calling a spirit, god, or other noncorporeal entity to manifest or act outside of one's self-limits. Invocation -- calling a spirit, god, or other noncorporeal entity to manifest or act inside of one's self-limits. So calling a spirit to get money is usually evocation -- calling an angel to develop musical skill is usually done better as an invocation. --Pat -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- < note that this e-mail has been written of the top of my head and not been proofed. Therefore it probably contains wildly inaccurate data and contradictary remarks > > Someone said that they would be better at > giving instructions on evokation if they knew > my skills or whatnot better... > I have never evoked anything... I have invoked > some, but sometimes that wasn't intentional... > I attempted to evoke Buer today, but after > chanting his name for an hour and only getting > light-headed from lack of O2, I gave up, > banished anyway, and left... could you PLEASE > give me something similar to step-by-steps > instructions? I would owe you lots... I'll try for step by step instructions, but there are a lot of personal techniques that I use during ritual, which I really cannot explain. Anyway, here's some notes: Preparation Okay, first there needs to be a strong enough motivation or emotion to evoke the spirit. If you are just doing it for fun it probably won't work. You also need will and belief. You need to be prepared to undertake the evocation and have the results fully considered, also you need a belief that the conjuration will work. Next you need a working area and paraphenalia. Most books say that the circle should be about 9ft diameter and the triangle 3ft along each side. I am lucky enough to have this kind of room, but I have sucessfully used smaller areas so don't worry too much about the precise measurements. Make the circle from string or masking tape. If you want, you can write protective names on the tape or on pieces of card. The triangle can also be made in a similar way. As for paraphenalia, most of it can be drawn on paper. I usually draw the spirit's sigil and the Hexagram of Solomon on parchment bought from my local art store. For the Pentagon I buy some card which has a metallic side of a metal appropriate for the spirits. You should also have your invocation handy, I chose to re-work The Bornless Invocation with imagery that appeals to me, for example: <shout loud!> Makroseiris! I invoke Thee! <drop to the ground> I feel you, oh Makroseiris! I feel you, great and ancient! I feel you, dead but living! I feel you tread over land, over sea. I feel you part the waves of R'Lyeh! The Weaver shuns thee! The King's madness touches thee not! I feel you, king, ruler and helper! I memorised the Invocation - including all actions and barbarous words. Robes are optional, but I try to wear clean clothes. Incense is also optional, but according to some it gives the spirit a medium in which to manifest. An incense burner can be placed in the triangle, or incense can be placed at each corner of the triangle. The evocation will probably take about an hour, so make sure that the incense will burn long enough. Compounds using mugwort or other intoxicating aromas can be used as incense, such as this one: 1 part mugwort 1 part wormwood It should be smoldered slightly damp with fire - use a small amount as it stinks! It does, however increase the ability to 'see' things and many people use it in scrying. Other incenses for evocation include things with nasty smells like sulphur and asafoetida - stuff which the demons like apparently. I usually use frankincense though... The conjuration Check that the phone's off and that no one is going to call on you during the evocation. Put the seal in the triangle and get yourself kitted out with the paraphenalia and enter the circle. The perform the LBRP, something else you should have learned and then recite you invocation, with feeling! Put effort into calling the god and bringing down it's power into you. By the end of your invocation you should feel powerful, my hands (or my whole body if I'm lucky) usually start buzzing. Then recite the conjuration while pointing at the triangle, something like "Hear me, O spirit n., by my flaming hands i bid thee to appear before the circle in a fair and human form. Hear me and come peacably before me in the Triangle of the Art!" Then we call the spirit's name, I remember reading that an attentive spirit should come on the eleventh call. I like to call the name like a howl of wind - "Buuuuuuu-ERRRRRRRRRRRR!" If you sense a prescence like someone else is in the room, once more tell it to get into the triangle. If you don't sense the prescence then you can either give up or give the spirit some motivation to appear. You can try to charm it, or threaten it, with something like "Appear to serve me at once, or I shall have no choice but to destroy you from my reality!" or "If you are not for me, you are against me and if you do not immediately comply with my wishes I will burn your Seal to ashes and remove you forever from my Universe." You have to mean it when you threaten them, it's no use bluffing - they know you too well! A threat will usually make the spirit come, but if it does not come then you should do what you said - as a lesson to the others. Don't however, go about anhillating all 72 spirits just because you are a bad magician! ;-) So once the spirit is manifested you can go about giving it the charge. What's that? You want to see it? Then ask it to manifest, you may have to will it to appear or will yourself to be able to see it. The spirits appear to me sometimes in the 'mind's eye' like images which one sees when scrying or looking into darkness - however, the form is constant and usually in keeping with what is written in the Goetia. Now read your charge to the spirit along with some kind of deadline and reward. You may find the spirit 'speaking' to you and trying to negotiate the deadline or reward. Be flexible, but do not let the spirit get the other hand. If the spirit wants six months instead of five days to carry out the charge, refuse. If the spirit wants it's seal on a better metal than your first offer then accept, but if the spirit wants bodily fluid or even your soul (!) then refuse. Once the charge is read, the spirit can then be told to depart with something like 'Thanks, bye - travel safely and don't hurt anyone!' or 'Depart and be ready to come whenever I call you up whether it be in the Triangle or not. Go ! Go peacably without causing harm to me or my loved ones!'. If the spirit doesn't leave or if you can still feel it's presecence, just repeat the license to depart and concentrate on returning to normality. Then do the LBRP again and leave the circle. The 'activated' seal should be kept safe - remember the seal is the spirit's life force! Ultimatums, torture and thanking the spirit If the spirit does not comply to your will then you may have to conjure it again to deliver an ultimatum. For example "I demand that my will be done within one day, otherwise the consequences will be harsh!" If the spirit still fails then you can destroy the sigil, or you can "torture" the sigil until the spirit complies - for example you could put the seal in a brass bottle and weld the top on then perhaps heat the bottle or leave it in the cold for several days. Then you can free the spirit and start again. If the spirit works well, which most of them seem to (I have never needed to destroy a sigil), then you are bound to carry out your side of the bargain, Lauranz drew the sigil on a blackboard, some people put the seals on metals (myself included). You could even paint the sigil somewhere public. Notes Since it seems that the spirits are to some extent parts of one's mind, there are some things which I have found out while working with the Goetia. Forgetting seems to be important (to me, at least), as it is important with sigilisation techniques. Also, if you dwell on what you ask the spirits to do, then you may become unsure of what your really want - probably resulting in a failiure. You may like to choose some atmospheric backing music, the CD from the computer game Quake has some excellent ambient sounds by Trent Reznor, which are good to put on loop mode. Hope this helps, Phil |
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