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Talking Point - The Great Voice
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I AM 06-15-2004 01:50 AM
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Talking Point - The Great Voice
I would like to talk about the Great Voice. I have seen many posts
about this subject but have not seen anyone describe how to do a
"Great Voice." So, I will share a technique that I use.
When uttering the Great Voice it is completely unnecessary to say
anything aloud. In fact, I find that this hinders the effort
rather than helps it. Others may be more comfortable using vocal
sounds.
When I use the Great Voice I manifest the vibrations of the words
into the great void and FEEL their vibrations resonating
throughout the void. Okay, what does that mean?
Visualize yourself in a dark universe, stars and all. Make
yourself LARGE in this universe. Size does matter! Make yourself
LARGER than the Galaxies and your head touching the ceiling of the
Universe if you want to. When saying the words FEEL the vibrations
of those words within yourself. You should feel these vibrations
shaking the internal fabric of your body if possible. Every
molecule of your Body should feel the Vibrations.
Believe it or not, you will know when the vibrations are correct.
When they feel right release them into the void and feel the
entire void vibrate with the vibrations you have created. In fact
you should feel them echoing throughout the void. If your words
"shake" the void then you have done it correctly.
Of course, I could just be on drugs...
Humbly, I AM
P.S. This did not start out as a Talking Topic but I received so
many comments from members I decided to make it one. I hope you
agree.
SaintGeorge 06-15-2004 11:01 PM
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Quote:
Believe it or not, you will know when the vibrations are correct.
When they feel right release them into the void and feel the
entire void vibrate with the vibrations you have created. In fact
you should feel them echoing throughout the void. If your words
"shake" the void then you have done it correctly.
Oh I do like the sound of this, I always have trouble with this
chanting/vibratory
business, I think I am going to practice this one extensively, get
out the hard hats guys.
Quote:
Of course, I could just be on drugs...
eh you forgot to give us the recipe IAM ;-)
All_One_Mind 06-15-2004 11:10 PM
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Sounds quite similiar to the way I do it as well. I too sometimes
find it subtracting to vibrate the words outloud, but I ussually
do so anyway. Good post.
Frater Manjet 06-15-2004 11:34 PM
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I find the "Great Voice" a very powerful tool when needed, but I
am such a psychdrama addict I just have to voice it aloud!
I mostly use it when in bed and doing ritual before sleeping. I
find that I get a much fuller whole body effect when vibrating
aloud.
Om A Piap (210/3)
DeviouZ 06-16-2004 06:34 AM
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What do you guys think about Crowley's comment about vibrating the
God-Names in his... Liber O was it? He states, if done correctly,
you should feel the name of the God rise through you, in terms of
feeling and audibly as well... it should be so intense that you
feel physically weakened for a second or two. I mean, I can see
the parallels feeling-wise with the vibrations, but I wonder what
he meant about hearing it audibly also, do you guys perhaps know
about this?
Telwilwarin 06-16-2004 03:44 PM
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I have experimented with both phyzichal voice, and without. The
non-audio version works, but like Manjet i enjoy the psychodrama
:) Still i have'nt experienced the a-ha thing. I will just have to
work harder!
Albino Crow 06-16-2004 03:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DeviouZ
What do you guys think about Crowley's comment about vibrating the
God-Names in his... Liber O was it? He states, if done correctly,
you should feel the name of the God rise through you, in terms of
feeling and audibly as well... it should be so intense that you
feel physically weakened for a second or two. I mean, I can see
the parallels feeling-wise with the vibrations, but I wonder what
he meant about hearing it audibly also, do you guys perhaps know
about this?
I have a few books on the 72 God names, and very faintly do I
remember anything along similar lines as to what Crowley
mentioned. I suppose it's a factor of your own decided sensitivity
to the practice. Personally, when I take on a task I learned of
elsewhere, I always set my standards and means of practice much
higher than those outlined. On the topic of vibrating voice, this
allows me to immediately break the shell of expectation and
establish my own, true, real, believable realm and experience with
the task on a personal level. Having said that, work with the God
names have been some of the most profound experiences of my life.
Darkfay 06-19-2004 03:47 PM
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Well, i tried visualising myself, being larger than the Galaxies
and all that. But knowing the fact that im TERRIBLE at
visualising, im trying a different approach.
I imagine that im the ONLY being around. No galaxies, no stars,
nothing exists yet, just me. I imagine complete darkness. And i
vibrate the LBRP as if its being chanted for the first time ever.
So in effect, im creating the 4 angels for the first time, every
time. Gives me an immense sense of power and control.
Is my method different? im not sure, but it works like hell!
Last LBRP i did was so powerful, i felt ill the whole night, coz i
couldnt handle the energy it created.
Ludi 06-20-2004 10:23 PM
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Are you on drugs, I AM? I'm actually asking this question
seriously.
Thanks.
I AM 06-20-2004 10:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkfay
Well, i tried visualising myself, being larger than the Galaxies
and all that. But knowing the fact that im TERRIBLE at
visualising, im trying a different approach.
I imagine that im the ONLY being around. No galaxies, no stars,
nothing exists yet, just me. I imagine complete darkness. And i
vibrate the LBRP as if its being chanted for the first time ever.
So in effect, im creating the 4 angels for the first time, every
time. Gives me an immense sense of power and control.
Is my method different? im not sure, but it works like hell!
Last LBRP i did was so powerful, i felt ill the whole night, coz i
couldnt handle the energy it created.
A different way of accomplishing the same thing! Great post
Darkfay.
As far as visualization goes, many have this difficulty. As an
exercise I suggest the following. Take a look at the room you are
in (any room will do). Then close your eyes and try to "see" the
room as you remembered it. Try to see each item in the room, the
flooring, walls, and ceilings. As you progress, try to see the
textures of the items in the room.
I recommend you do this everywhere you go. This will increase
memory, focus, and visualization.
As far as the energy making you ill, consider GROUNDING yourself
during and AFTER the Ritual if necessary. I am certain you have
your own methods of Grounding. However, PM me if you desire more
information.
I hope this helps.
Humbly, I AM
Darkfay 06-21-2004 12:24 PM
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Thank you for the suggestion I AM. I will PM u.
Nero 06-21-2004 12:57 PM
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I have to agree with Frater Manjet, just being able to vibrate out
loud shaking the world with my voice is much more powerful. Often
when I do it this way I feel dizzy afterwards.
That being said most often for reasons beyond my control I must
use the great voice. And as usual with my practice, my method is
very unorthodox but it works very well with me. I first pull in a
deep breath all the way down to my feet. (often I physically lean
back while I do this) Then I push out this breath trying to
vibrate my own body more than the world around me as I do when I
am free. I tend to focus more on the vowel sounds than the actual
words themselves. The last sounds come out in a pronounced hiss as
I force out the last bit of air in my lungs trying to put as much
power into it as I can.
I know this is not the classic method of the great voice but it
works. I have vibrated correctly out loud and as Kraig says when
you do it correctly you will know. I have experemented with
different methods of the great voice and all I have to say is keep
experementing until you find what clicks for you.
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